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This is a keno variant I noticed yesterday on a Game King machine. Here are the rules.1. Player picks 2 to 10 numbers out of 80.
2. Game picks three numbers from the 70 to 78 unchosen numbers and marks them with eggs.
3. Game picks 20 numbers out of 80.
3. If 2 eggs are hit, player win is multiplied by 4.
4. If 3 eggs are hit, player win is multiplied by 8.
5. In addition, if 2 or 3 eggs are hit, the game draws 3 extra balls.
6. Player is paid according to the base pay table below.
Pick 2 | Pick 3 | Pick 4 | Pick 5 | Pick 6 | Pick 7 | Pick 8 | Pick 9 | Pick 10 | |
Catch 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Catch 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Catch 2 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Catch 3 | 0 | 20 | 4 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
Catch 4 | 0 | 0 | 50 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 1 |
Catch 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 88 | 55 | 10 | 4 | 4 | 2 |
Catch 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 500 | 110 | 20 | 15 | 10 |
Catch 7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1000 | 200 | 120 | 60 |
Catch 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2000 | 500 | 250 |
Catch 9 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2000 | 1000 |
Catch 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2000 |
What is unclear to me is what happens if the get hits two eggs on the initial 20 ball draw, and then hits the third egg with the three extra balls. Does the player with 4X or 8X. Here is what the rules say:
If two eggs are hit, all wins pay 4X. If three eggs are hit, all wins pay 8X! Two or more hit eggs on a winning card awards three extra balls!
I tend to think that the game would still pay 4X. Based on that assumption for the pick-10 game I get a return of 93.4114% for the pick-10.
Would anyone up for a math challenge care to confirm or refute that?
However, considering how rarely that will happen, maybe they'll be generous?
Frankly, if you're planning on creating a WoO page for this, I think you should calculate the edge both ways, as well as state the odds of it actually happening.
I calculated the return both ways. Turns out that both are feasible. Looks a bit odd to me, though, because I would not expect to see a 97.3% keno, much less a 99.0% keno if you look at the 9 spot game. But, I would expect the help screen to clearly indicate which draws count toward the multiplier, so without a disclaimer on the help screens, I tend to think that the second game is how the game works.
Spots Marked | Return |
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2 | 0.887757812 |
3 | 0.929734822 |
4 | 0.912414647 |
5 | 0.924574006 |
6 | 0.916688735 |
7 | 0.929466186 |
8 | 0.937256048 |
9 | 0.972962771 |
10 | 0.934113907 |
Spots Marked | Return |
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2 | 0.903975771 |
3 | 0.9466015 |
4 | 0.928930666 |
5 | 0.941349123 |
6 | 0.933075619 |
7 | 0.946124812 |
8 | 0.954121691 |
9 | 0.990311769 |
10 | 0.950684901 |
If two eggs are hit, all wins pay 4X. If three eggs are hit, all wins pay 8X! Two or more hit eggs on a winning card awards three extra balls!
Based on these rules, I have changed my oppinion. The rules state that only a 'winning card' will get three extra balls. So, you would not get additional balls if you hit only two eggs but none of your marked spots. Based on this, I have come up with new returns, and I think it is the second one since the rules don't specify whether or not the 3 extra draws can increase your multiplier. These returns look much more normal for an IGT keno game, plus they are more consistent across the marked spots.
Spots Marked | Return |
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2 | 0.847924228 |
3 | 0.863133828 |
4 | 0.863656371 |
5 | 0.866315366 |
6 | 0.866445463 |
7 | 0.867018706 |
8 | 0.864888873 |
9 | 0.866761486 |
10 | 0.864497242 |
Spots Marked | Return |
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2 | 0.863032537 |
3 | 0.878263762 |
4 | 0.878877291 |
5 | 0.881489195 |
6 | 0.881579823 |
7 | 0.882045464 |
8 | 0.879805963 |
9 | 0.881317345 |
10 | 0.879256766 |
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The game is paid on the final count of number and eggs hit, so I would say it would be 8x even if the third egg is hit during the three extra numbers.
Not to say you're wrong, but how do you know?
Not to say you're wrong, but how do you know?
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I looked at the par sheet.Mark
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I looked at the par sheet.
Good answer.
Thanks CM for the outstanding and rapid results! Indeed, I was awarding the extra balls for hitting 2 or more eggs always. I'll have to go back and fix that.
Not to say you're wrong, but how do you know?
This is accurate from my experience at playing it. The difference between this and regular caveman is the extra balls, and regular caveman pays 10x typically for 3 eggs. Therefore the payout percentage is close to the same.
Thanks CM for the outstanding and rapid results!
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I looked at the par sheet.
Mark
I can sortof infer what a par sheet is,
but what exactly is a par sheet ?
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what exactly is a par sheet ?
It is a document that shows the rules and the pertinent math of any video-based game.
It is a document that shows the rules and the pertinent math of any video-based game.
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So is that an industry thing, where only the peoplewho buy the machine usually see it ?
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thanksSo is that an industry thing, where only the people
who buy the machine usually see it ?
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Yes. Only employees, regulators, and customers.
Yes. Only employees, regulators, and customers.
Consultants? Or do they count as employees?
Consultants? Or do they count as employees?
I would have lumped them together. Essentially, you have to have a business purpose. I used to have an account with IGT to see par sheets when I worked at GLI.
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